FRANK CARSON et al…….

Jiminy crickets friend was in rare form today

by Marty Carlson

05-24-2016


Just for information this morning it was noted that assemblywoman Kristin Olsen had spent a little bit of time in the courtroom observing.

The afternoon session started with Robert Forkner asking Mme. Dist. Atty. what was the overt act for the conspiracy charges in this case.

The DA’s response was only that it goes to Walter wells and state of mind. Robert Forkner again asked how do they argue that John Pueblo was at the scene of the alleged crime in Turlock but they have established or his employer and interviews that he was in Modesto at the time.

Jesse Garcia asked to cross investigator juice Jacobson prior to making his argument about the relevancy of these wiretaps. It was revealed that investigator Jacobson had reviewed all material as a supervisor of the wiretaps, so he is saying he reviewed 56,000 phone calls. He was also asked when he last had heard a conversation where is now being indicated the bodies had been moved multiple times by John Pueblo and involved in in the questioning by Kirk bunch.

Mme. DA argued that Walter wells reaction was not a surprise when you heard about the search warrant being served at his house. Even though there were prior interviews with him knowing this is probably what it was going to lead with the type of the questions they were asking him. Melissa Ferreira began one of her infamous long narratives throwing out information that was new to everybody involved and as the it defense attorneys claimed it misstated the evidence.

Tim Raines objects in the middle of Melissa Ferreira’s argument being quite agitated and animated, this led to a nasty exchange between Melissa Ferreira who likes to try to be the big dog in the room, and Tim Raines. And apparently there were some conversation that I was unable to hear being said by Frank Carson but it did appear that he was very agitated and to be honest with you I don’t think I would’ve been this patient as he has been up to this point, I would add a lot more to say a long time ago myself. The court called a break to let everybody calm down and it took several minutes for everybody to catch their breath.

Jesse Garcia asked investigator Jacobson to refresh his recollection of one of the transcripts on the visit that you Kirk bunch had made to John Pueblo. Apparently transcripts say that bunch had asked John if he had put a body in his car and transported it around to different spots, sounds like more of a dumb ass question to me. There was also some information brought out about Edward Quentin are and his wife had moved out of the house at one point because of the harassment of the investigators in them always coming around. Jesse Garcia admitted that there are some phone records that put some of the defendants at the same location at certain times and also made note that the out walls did not file a lawsuit in Stanislaus County, when they were having their problems with the investigators, because if they felt that they were corrupt here in this County.

Mme. DA argued that the conversations between Walter wells and Jessica were not heartbreaking, it doesn’t seem anything is to her, but they are important to show that they are trying to establish false alibi’s. She also argued that you need to take all the conversation and totality to draw a picture of the overall situation and that the phone evidence puts him in the area. During this argument Mme. DA had made a comment about Woody’s statements and his testimony this going to be introduced. The judge immediately interrupted her argument and asked her if Robert Woody was actually going to take the stand, and Mme. DA developed a quick intake met attitude towards the judge and she was immediately admonished by the judge for her response in her attitude that came with it.

Mme. DA did state that Woody statement will come in either through prop 115 testimony or through Woody’s testimony himself.

Again Tim rein very aggravated and upset begins objecting loudly about the DA arguing evidence that it not been put in the record or produced in court.

Mme. DA says a reference to John Pueblo does not change Walter wells as part in this. Except for the fact this morning the DA said it was a security patrol vehicle with a light bar on it not a police vehicle that was at the Carson residence that night. It appears that the DA is trying to backtrack from what she said earlier today.

The DA also said that Walter wells is making fun of the interview techniques used by the investigators, heck I do that myself. She also stated that when Walter wells wanted another police agency present to obstruct the search warrant at his house, I don’t know how bring in another police agency to a search warrant saying is obstructing justice to be honest with you. She also referred to Robert Woody testimony again and stated that some of the calls not made to certain individuals is also relevant. So what she saying is Frank Carson called his mom after the search warrant and it shows consciousness of guilt, Walter wells to call his mom and that shows consciousness of guilt.

Mme. DA also had the brass to bring up Beverly Woody’s testimony stating that Walter wells was at the scene, which I could not believe that she was referring to that testimony especially since Beverly was not there and admitted she is willing to lie for her son.

What the DA was finally done Tim Rein apologize the court about what he called his little dustup before the break. He stated that Beverly Woody had put officers at the scene for the Dist. Atty.’s benefit and probably at their request. He also made note that the District Attorney’s Office did not redirect Beverly Woody after the defense was done with cross. In addition, Beverly Woody’s testimony that was that she told the story originally to Martin Baker Robert Woody’s attorney but there does not seem to be any proof of that.

He also stated that the DA made an offer of proof that did not include Walter wells and Robert Woody never admitted that Walter wells any Quentin are or Frank Carson was at the scene the night that Corey Kaufman was allegedly killed and or disappeared. Robert Woody never told anyone that Walter wells was hanging around at pop and Cork before the last interview. And apparently there is no other contact with me the other defendants with Robert Woody.

So and summing enough Tim Reins stated there was no legitimate offer of proof by the DA’s office because the DA at this point had changed their theories were buying totally in to Beverly Woody’s testimony.

Martha Magana made a short argument at somewhat emotional argument that the DA is constantly miss misleading this court and misstating evidence. She said the DA is not reading the evidence but putting personal belief not facts before the court and in some cases the DA is mind reading when stating the evidence.

Percy Martinez argued that the statements by Beverly Woody are nowhere near what was testified to by any other witnesses. And he also stated that Woody statements consistently said the Carson was not there at the scene and in addition Carson only requested to know who was stealing his property not to hurt anybody, and was expressively clear about that.

The judge clarified all attorneys involved that just because one attorney may make a representation to the court as true it does not mean that she takes it as true and make those determinations herself after listening to all of the evidence.

Attorneys argued that they have an obligation to the court to object to some of the ramblings and inaccuracies constantly been presented before the court, in addition they said the Beverly Woody version created a total change in theory in the Dist. Atty.’s case.

At that time Tim rein had an appointment to go to and he had to leave the court recessed early there was some minor conversations off the record in the courtroom between attorneys and the judge scheduling some witnesses as there are almost done with the wiretaps.

Court to be resumed tomorrow at 930


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16 comments

  1. This is sounding more and more like a bunch of clowns, I read your blog every morning and afternoon and think you do a great job.

    Keep it up.

    • Yep! “Send in the Clowns!”

      Old Blues “….Where are the clowns, send in the clowns, don’t bother they’re here..”

  2. Does the DA have a cogent theory of how Walter Wells may have been involved? Am I missing something? From reading your blog all I can tell is that he knew the Atwalls. He knew Woody and he knew about the search of Frank Carson’s property. Is that it? Or is there more? Boy I’m glad I didn’t know the Atwalls!!! Also I think the Ramey warrant says he (or another police officer) told the athwalls they could use a mirror taped to a stick to look for tracking devices under their car. You know the mirror on a stick idea is a line taken almost word for word from Breaking Bad which was playing on television at the time. So I guess watching television shows where the criminals win also is consciousness of guilt too. As far as searching his house, well my house was searched before too, over my objection and without a warrant. And it didn’t surprise me at all. Not because I was guilty of anything but because I knew law enforcement well enough to know they regularly violate people’s rights with little or no repercussions. Wells, being a cop would likewise be well aware of that fact.

    • All we hear in court is conscience of guilt and state of mind which are ok when you have actual evidence to support that. If it is the only evidence you have then an innocent phone call turns into a major conspiracy.
      Then throw on top all kinds of misstatements of the evidence and even when reading from a transcript you do not read verbatim, you interject words that are not there to try to make it more believable. That shows me a conscience of guilt and state of mind in a frame job.

  3. I want to add that I am glag that Kristen Olson was there. I get the feeling most of our political leaders want to avoid this case and bury their heads in the sand. It is good to see that our local legislator is taking note of this case. Karen, if you read this, maybe you could introduce legislation that slightly raises the evidence bar at prelims. For example, double and triple hearsay should be presumed inadmisdible unless direct non-hearsay evidence is first introduced to establish the reliability of the double and triple hearsay. Such a rule would have eliminated much of what I opine to be abuse being perpetrated at this hearing.

  4. REALLY!!!!!! Any fouth grader knows the difference between a security guards car
    and a real live CHP prowl car. This is what
    Stan County spends Millions of dollars on; I
    Mean come on, At least have the chiva slamming punk take the stand and tell us
    Wtf happened out there. Key rist. No No No,
    Lets put his mommy on the stand. Come on juice an brady bunch….work on your coaching skills….maybe we can get her to put the tooth fairy and easter bunny on scene (driving a crown vic of course) please tell me theres more the suspense is killing me

  5. They sure do need to clean up the justice system and how it is ran. All the lies they are able to get away with and threatening to take peoples kids away and they never will see them again this is bullshit. How would they feel if this was said to them. It appears this is the number one they use. Then saying the husbands has whores. They stup below low to get what they want. Just because someone is better than they are they are willing to do and so whatever it takes to get rid of them. This is not justice they are just no good evil people and to believe our justice system is this screwed up makes me sick. I wonder everyday what will they do next if action is not taken and these devious corrupted people dealt with soon.

  6. 56,000 / 365 days in a year = about 150 calls per day over a year. You would think out 56,000 calls 150 calls/day that would go to “a conscience of desperation”. I think Jacobson at some point said “Fuck it! Just arrest everyone! We will fly by the seats of our pants and see what happens”. Google the average attention span for an adult. It will surprise you or maybe not. Nearly impossible to sit and listen to that many phone calls, text messages, etc., At this point with the conscience of guilt thing she probably knows where Jimmy Hoffa is buried, or more than likely think she does.

    Did they tap Cooley’s group phones? Probably take like 5 calls and the case is solved.

    • If you tap the coolest phones that would actually be an investigation and not an agenda. And I would actually get to the truth of the matter asthe DA likes to always say

  7. Funny they eliminated the Cooly’s so quick just because one law enforcement officer said we can trust him.

    I certainly trust the Cooley’s. In fact, I am asking Eula for a date tonight. Shouldn’t be any problem I can see.

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