They translated the translations
by Marty Carlson
the afternoon session started with Percy Martinez asking Steve “the juice” Jacobson if he supervised the translation use for the affidavits for the warrants for the wiretaps. His response was to some degree. He also stated in 2013 Dave Harris was also involved in giving directions to the translators. In 2014 Jacobson supervisor Dave Harris gave instructions in regards to minimum as a nation’s that were in writing. They were to be minimized when a live call came in and they were not relevant. It seems to be this term relevant is a complete discretionary and personal opinion of each individual translator does not seem to be a standard. He also stated that English or good job be calls could be minimized Azeris keywords listened to the Punjabi calls to see if there’s anything of substance in the call itself.
Jacobson was also asked if he had discussed his pending legal issues where Frank Carson had filed a lawsuit against him, and he stated that he never discussed that situation with Harris or Fladager.
Tim Rien inquired if all the information and facts on the case were giving to the monitors to determine what is pertinent, he stated that they are briefed and made aware of what the situation is. Tim rein again inquired about the data the search warrant at Pop n Cork which was 7-15-2012.
At that time there was kind of a nasty exchange between the Dist. Atty. the judge and Tim Raines when he inquired if popping Cork was also being used as a cop bar. Apparently the district attorney didn’t really understand what a cop bar is. Tim Rayne explained he has a right to inquire to this line of questioning as it is appropriate and the current circumstance.
Steve Jacobson did advise that cops would go over there and drink in the back on a regular basis and they would be from the Sheriff’s office, CHP, and Turlock Police Department, and they would Frank at the bar regularly.
He also inquired about the recording the Scott McFarland and Walter wells determined from the recording that they were friends of the at walls. He also inquired of the investigator if Korey Kaufman was a suspect in any thefts or any other type a crime with Walter wells or anyone else other than Frank Carson. He began asking the about another business in the Turlock area called the dust bowl but it was objected to as irrelevant and we never heard the answer to that one.
Attorney Hans inquired about a May 9 instruction by Dave Harris that all calls be minimized after 30 seconds and spot check after two minutes to be used as a guide to follow in the Punjabi language, the investigator confirmed that was true. Also at that time it was established that Corey Brown was a supervisor in 2012. Steve Jacobson also stated that no Punjabi calls were minimized in 2012 but apparently there were some calls that were not minimized by the Punjabi supervisors in charge of the translators. He also revealed that some keywords like Corey Kaufman and Frank Carson and were put in to the synopsis for directions to the translators and monitors.
Martha Magana inquired as to the supervisor in charge in 2013 and it was determined to be at that time Cory Brown with the duty shared by a DOJ employee. He also stated in 2014 there was 10 more calls monitored and somehow the DA objected to this line of questioning because Frank Carson was not the wiretaps subject.
Martha Magana also inquired about who the translators and monitors were and he was not able to recall all the names but was able to go down the line she every call from the initials, and it turns out most of them were Department of Justice employees.
Martha Magana all was also trying to find out how many times some translators reviewed previously translated conversations and how and who they corrected. Again the district attorney is objecting as non-relevant as she did most of the afternoon and that she does when she doesn’t want information to be revealed. Ms. Magana also asked if there was a time that Steve Jacobson was not satisfied with the translation and then ordered somebody to review it and make changes as necessary. It was also inquired at that time is Steve Jacobson spoke Punjabi and how he would know if he was not satisfied with the translation, and he of course said he does not beget you just had people review it.
Apparently they had their district attorney employee miss Sindal review many translations by a Sheriff’s office employee by the name of Sharman that were done prior to miss Sindals employment. Ms. Magana also inquired about how many calls were made to or from Frank Carson from the out walls and he explained there were not many
years also inquired about the incident in the court hallway where he had an altercation with Frank Carson which resulted in a lawsuit filed by Frank Carson.
At that time, we took our afternoon break it was about 3 o’clock when we came back in about 320 all the attorneys that were filing into the judge’s chambers for in camera hearing. When they returned it was revealed one of the attorneys had a medical issue going on and it will be addressed the next day so they decided to not have court tomorrow Thursday the 26th.
There was just minor conversation about some scheduling and witness lists, as there were some issues with scheduling next week also. Court was then adjourned until next Tuesday which I believe starts at 130 but I will have to confirm and let everyone know.