By Marty Carlson


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On July 26, 2017 the head nurse at the University of Utah hospital, Alex Wubbel, was arrested by a Salt Lake City police detective for refusing to draw blood from an unconscious subject who was not under arrest.

The detective, , did not have a warrant, and the patient was not able to give consent. Without either of those criteria have been met by constitutional law, and hospital policy the detective was not allowed to do that.

The nurse had stood her ground, and got her supervisor on the phone so the detective could hear decision loud and clear. The supervisor was advising the officer that he was making a huge mistake is your threatening a nurse. At this time, detective pain was getting extremely angry and threatening.

As you see in the video the detective seized a hold of the nurse, forcibly removed her from the hospital emergency room and cuffed her hands behind her back he then placed her into an unmarked police car and accused her of interfering in investigation.

The video was captured on one of the officer’s body cameras and is now subject of internal investigation by the police department.

The US Supreme Court has explicitly ruled the blood can only be drawn from drivers for probable cause and with a warrant. Being a detective, he is fully aware of that, but was obviously willing to subvert the law for his purposes.

The nurse eventually was not criminally charged, and made the video available to the public in a news conference.

A spokesman for the Salt Lake Police Department, told local media that pain had been suspended from apartments blood draw unit but remained on active duty.

This started when a suspect speeding away from police in a pickup truck on the local highway smash head on into a truck driver. The truck driver who was severely burned was taken to the University of Utah Hospital, he arrived in a common total state and the suspects died in the crash.

The dipshit officer Payne, was sent from a neighboring Police Department to collect blood from the patient to check for illegal substances. The justification is he was trying to protect the trucker who is not suspected of a crime. His lieutenant had ordered him to arrest wobbles that she refused to let him draw a sample.

The original body cam video was about 19 minutes but is shown above is about one minute and 20 seconds. In one part of the video a second out officer asked why don’t we just write a search warrant, in psycho officer Payne stated, “we don’t have PC.” (Probable cause) and went on to say that he plans arrest the nurse if she did not allow him to draw blood.

The nurse also shows the detective, and the other officer, the hospital policy on obtaining blood samples from patients. She also had her supervisor on speakerphone, and she calmly tells them they can’t proceed unless they have a warrant or patient consent, or if the patient is under arrest.

The patient, who was unconscious, obviously was not able to consent, the officer stated that he does not have a warrant, nor is a patient under arrest.

The nurse’s supervisor on the phone tried to reason with an unreasonable officer to no avail.

At that point officer Payne took the nurse into custody by force, in my opinion excessive force, dragging her out of the emergency room to the outside of the building, handcuffing her and putting her in his pretend police car.

While this is happening if you look at the second officer, it appears he is taking a real passive attempt at getting this Detective to stop what he’s doing he obviously sees a problem.

During the recent press conference, they said that detective pain believed he was authorized to collect the blood under an “implied consent” law. But that law had been changed almost a decade ago. And in 2016 United States Supreme Court ruled that warrantless blood tests were illegal.

The nurse stated she is not taking any legal action against police at this time, but she’s also not ruling it out.


This is one of the more outrageous videos I think I have seen, for a variety of reasons. I also wonder why the officer had such a personal interest in this case.