FRANK CARSON ET AL 6-6-2018 (TOM)

FRANK CARSON ET AL CASE

FOR ALL THE MARBLES

MORNING SESSION

06/06/2018

JENSEN

BY WILLIAM THOMAS JENSEN (TOM)

Week 8, Day 30

Court resumed this morning at 9:13AM with the jury being led into the courtroom. Immediately, there is a problem with one of the alternate jurors, and it results in an in camera meeting in the judge’s chambers. Immediately, the jury is led back out of the courtroom. I could see some sour looks on the faces of the jurors. After about 15 minutes, the attorneys return to the courtroom, and the jury is brought back in at 9:38AM. Prosecution witness Ronald Cooper is brought back to the stand. He looks much different being out of his striped prison jump suit as I remember him from the Preliminary Examination. He appears to be impaired by something, and is constantly coughing. I think I will give him the nickname of the “Coughing man.”

Defense attorney Percy Martinez asks Cooper if he had a good memory in 2011. Cooper answers: “No.” Percy asks Cooper if he had a better memory in 2015. Cooper: “Yes.” Objection, sustained. Percy asks Cooper if he identified Frank Carson at the preliminary examination. Cooper: “I think so.” Percy goes through his testimony given on October 14, 2015. He refreshes Cooper’s memory with some transcripts. Cooper: “I could not identify Frank Carson.” Cooper admits to using methamphetamine 2-3 times daily in 2011, but says he was not on meth when Frank Carson came over to the Cooley house during one of the car incidents. Cooper states that he was incarcerated on November of 2013 when Kirk Bunch visited him. Percy presses Cooper about testifying in the preliminary examination that he was under the influence of meth when the police came over to the Cooley house. Percy refreshes Cooper’s memory, and Cooper has to admit that is what he said. He admits that he was under the influence of meth on both occasions where Frank Carson came over to the Cooley house.

Percy Martinez starts asking Cooper questions concerning a time when Kirk Bunch visited him at the Public Safety Center. It seems Cooper was transported to the DA’s Office where the subject was Frank Carson. Cooper testifies that Frank Carson asked him where his “Stuff” had gone. Cooper states that he was using meth at the Public Safety Center. Cooper states that Kirk Bunch asked him some general questions, and told Cooper: “I will take care of you.” Percy asks Cooper about a time where he said that Frank Carson pulled him out of jail for an attorney visit. Cooper was taken to a booth at the Public Safety Center, and used a telephone to talk to Frank Carson through the glass. Cooper testifies that he told Kirk Bunch what Frank Carson wanted to know. He states that he knew some people who were selling Carson’s stuff. Cooper denies that he or Michael Cooley were stealing stuff from Frank Carson. Cooper states that he gave the name of antique shops where the stolen Carson antiques were taken. He initially states that he gave the name of two shops in Turlock, and one in Hilmar. He gets refreshed, and states that he gave the name of two shops in Turlock, and one shop in Modesto. Cooper testifies that in November of 2013 when he spoke to Frank Carson, that Frank Carson had already been to Michael Cooley’s house. Cooper states that he gave Frank Carson some names. He initially denies giving Frank Carson the names of Eula Keyes and Michael Cooley as people who were stealing from the Carson property. After being refreshed, he admits that he gave Frank Carson these names. It appears that Cooper gave Frank Carson the name of Linda. Cooper admits that he did not know the last name of Linda Sue Burns.

Percy Martinez asks Cooper if he had told Kirk Bunch that Frank Carson had asked him if he knew anybody who could help him out. Cooper says: “Yes.” Cooper states that he did not have anybody to suggest to Frank Carson. Percy asks Cooper if Kirk Bunch had asked him if he knew anybody who was hiding out on the back lot of the Carson property. After being refreshed, Cooper states that Frank Carson did not have anybody hiding out on his property. Percy gets Cooper to admit that he told Frank Carson that he did not know who had stolen the items. Cooper testifies that he only gave Frank Carson names of people who were selling his stolen items. He once again gets refreshed. Cooper states that he did not give Frank Carson any names of people who were stealing antiques.

Cooper is asked by Percy if he had asked Frank Carson for money, and Cooper says: “Yea.” Percy tells Cooper that Frank Carson never got back with Cooper. Percy asks Cooper if he felt that he had been “Burned.” Percy states that Cooper that he had told Kirk Bunch that he felt that he had been burned by Frank Carson. Cooper says that he did not say that specifically.

Cooper states that he was on drugs that he first saw Frank Carson going through the car at the Cooley house. Cooper admits that he left the Cooley house before the police showed up because he was on probation. Percy asks Cooper if he told Amber Kiester (Adams) that he knew that Michael Cooley and Eula Keyes were robbing items from the Carson property. Percy has to cite some pages from an interview that Cooper had done. There is an objection, and the objection is sustained. Cooper states that he did not know what was going on with the thefts, but that he knew the thefts were going on earlier. Percy asks Cooper if he had told Kirk Bunch that Amber Kiester (Adams) had got her needle stuck on the 11/14/2013 interview (Ouch.) Cooper states that Amber does not use needles, but admits that he does. He states that Amber gathered her marijuana, pipes, etc. before she left. This was done before the police showed up. Cooper states that he recognized Frank Carson because he had seen him for years working at the courthouse while Cooper was being tried for various offenses. Cooper testifies that he told Amber Kiester (Adams) that the man who showed up at the Cooley house was Frank Carson.

Cooper testifies that he told Kirk Bunch that the thefts of antiques from the Carson property happened around New Year’s Eve. He had to be refreshed to remember this. Percy gets Cooper to admit that he identified Korey Kauffman as someone named Troy who was a friend of Michael Cooley’s during a visit with Kirk Bunch. Cooper told Bunch that he had seen Korey Kauffman (Troy) at the Cooley house two times. Percy tells Cooper that he had testified in the preliminary examination that he had never seen Korey Kauffman at the Cooley house. Cooper initially does not think that he said this. He gets refreshed, and has to admit that was what he said.

Cooper testifies that he saw the confrontation between Michael Cooley and Frank Carson. He says Frank Carson said: “I am Frank Carson” more than once during the confrontation. Cooper is not sure if he told Kirk Bunch that it was time for himself and Amber to get out of the place before the police showed up. He gets refreshed, and admits to saying that. Percy states that Kirk Bunch had asked Cooper if Frank Carson had made any threats. Cooper admits that Frank Carson said that: “Somebody is going to pay for doing this.” Cooper admits that Frank Carson did not threaten any harm to Michael Cooley.

Cooper testifies about a second incident he witnessed at the Cooley house concerning Frank Carson. He states that he was pulling into the Cooley residence on his bike from a store. Cooper, after being refreshed, admits that he told Kirk Bunch that he had gone to the Cooley house and smoked some crank. He admits that he told Kirk Bunch that he came out of the Cooley house to smoke, because he could not smoke in the house. He states that he saw Frank Carson going through the glove box of the car. He states that Michael Cooley and Eula Keyes pulled up and began arguing with Frank Carson. He states that someone called the cops. It is now time for our morning break.

After the break, Cooper testifies that Michael Cooley told Frank Carson that he did not care if Frank Carson was an attorney. Cooley told Frank Carson that it was illegal for him to be searching the car. Percy reminds Cooper that he never told Kirk Bunch about any security lights when he was at the DA’s office during the first interview. Percy tells Cooper that Kirk Bunch told Cooper that if he was super cooperative he could give him some consideration. Cooper admits that was what he was looking for. Cooper admits that Frank Carson only said: “Somebody is going to have to pay for my stuff.” Percy once again gets Cooper to admit that Frank Carson had identified himself as being Frank Carson. Cooper has to admit that he told Kirk Bunch that Frank Carson had said that he was going to get to the bottom of the theft issue. Percy states that Cooper told Kirk Bunch that Michael Cooley and Eula Keyes had the stolen antiques for sale. Even after being refreshed, Cooper did not admit to saying this in the interview. Cooper denies that he was offered any of the antiques to sell. He gets refreshed on that, and still does not admit to saying that in the interview. Percy asks Cooper if Kirk Bunch had told him the date that Korey Kauffman had allegedly gone missing. Cooper states that he does not remember being told that by Kirk Bunch. It is all in the interview folks. Percy asks Cooper if he told Kirk Bunch that he had told his “Cellie” that Frank Carson had burned him. Cooper says: “No.” He gets refreshed, and admits that he had told his cell mate that. Cooper admits that he told Kirk Bunch that he wanted to get into a drug program for his cooperation. Cooper admits that Kirk Bunch had asked him to gather information concerning Frank Carson. Cooper admits to talking to Johnny Padilla about Frank Carson.

Percy talks to Cooper about a time when he talked to Kirk Bunch on 04/29/2014. Cooper states that he had his attorney with him during this visit. Cooper denies that he had any deals on the table for him at that time. Cooper states that Kirk Bunch told him that he would talk to the DA to obtain consideration for Cooper because he cooperated. Cooper admits that Kirk Bunch had assured him that he would make sure that the consideration happened.

Percy once again goes over one of the incidents that Cooper witnessed when Frank Carson was seen going through a car at the Cooley residence. Cooper says admits he said that Frank Carson had said to Michael Cooley: “I’m Frank Carson, and I can do what I want to do, I’m a lawyer.” Cooper had to be refreshed before he admits that he had told Kirk Bunch this. Cooper, after being refreshed, states that he told Kirk Bunch that Frank Carson said: “You guys stole from me, when I find out, I’m going to deal with you.” Cooper admits that he knew Michael Cooley was stealing from the Carson property. This is in direct contradiction to earlier testimony today. Percy asks Cooper if he had been told by Frank Carson that he had put up a new fence. Cooper says that Frank Carson had said he was going to put up a new fence. Cooper gets refreshed on this. Cooper would not admit to actually saying what was contained in the interview.

Cooper says he “Misspoke” to Kirk Bunch when he told Kirk Bunch that he was a friend of Michael Cooley. Cooper says Michael Cooley is an acquaintance. Percy reminds Cooper that he told Kirk Bunch that he quit being friends with Michael Cooley after getting into a fight with him. Percy gets Cooper to admit that he told Kirk Bunch that Johnny Padilla was getting involve with the Carson investigation. Percy gets Cooper to agree that Kirk Bunch told him that his information was good, and that he wanted Cooper to gather more information. Cooper states that he did not remember Kirk Bunch telling him that he was going to get jail visitation records concerning visits from Frank Carson to Ronald Cooper. Cooper could not being asked by the judge in the preliminary examination if he personally spoke to Frank Carson. Cooper, after being refreshed, had to admit that he told Kirk Bunch that one of his friends who stole the antiques from the Carson property. Cooper admits that he took an oath that he was going to be truthful in his testimony. Cooper had to admit that he told Kirk Bunch that Michael Cooley was stealing items from the Carson property. Cooper admits that he sent a letter to Frank Carson telling him that he had information concerning the thefts on his property. Cooper states that he was in a regular visitation room when Frank Carson visited him at the jail. Cooper admits that they talked through the glass. Cooper states that Frank Carson was not his attorney at the time. Percy asks some questions about the conversation being recorded. I seem to remember that the recording is missing from this conversation. It is now time for our lunchtime break. After the jury, and witness are taken out of the courtroom, Judge Zuniga asks Marlisa Ferreira if she has any information concerning Michael Cooley. He is supposed to testify tomorrow. Marlisa Ferreira tells the judge that Michael Cooley had five teeth extracted yesterday. Judge Zuniga tells her she does not want to have any issues with Michael Cooley being on medication. I would bet he will not be able to testify for several days. His heroin habit should help with the pain relief. I will be there tomorrow morning for more fun and games.

Sincerely; William Thomas Jensen (Tom)

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