FRANK CARSON ET AL CASE
FOR ALL THE MARBLES
AFTERNOON SESSION 01/24/2019
WEEK 36, DAY 127
BY WILLIAM THOMAS JENSEN (TOM)
MARLISA’S STAR WITNESS COMING UP CRAPS
I stayed home this morning and slept in. I was up until 1:30AM last night after writing my blog for 5 hours, and then doing my chores. I felt much better after my sleep and was there in the afternoon to watch the continuing destruction of Robert Woody. At the end of the afternoon session, Judge Zuniga received two letters from two different jurors wanting to know when this fiasco is going to end. One of the jurors has been questioned by her employer about when she can return to work. Marlisa Ferreira, and everyone else, knows that she cannot win this case. We all feel that she is going to stretch this thing out as long as she can in an attempt to run out of jurors. We currently have three alternate jurors available to step in. If we run out of jurors, she gets a mistrial, and is able to save face. I hope and pray that the jurors will somehow hang in there and outlast her devious plan. We need to hang a huge loss on this prosecution and send a message that this kind of abuse should never happen again.
The afternoon session begins at 1:35PM with both the jury and Robert Woody in the courtroom. Woody admits to being provided around 6 inches of transcripts by the investigators during the Preliminary Hearing to prepare for his testimony. He had to be refreshed before he admitted to receiving these transcripts. He does not recall being coached to answer question by saying: “I don’t recall.” This leads to a side bar, and Percy Martinez has to move on to a different question.
After being asked a question by Percy Martinez, and being refreshed, Woody admits that he testified on 09/20/2016 in the Preliminary Hearing that he said he burned a white ford Pickup rather than a silver Chevrolet pickup. Perhaps he did not burn either pickup. That is what I think. Woody denies that during an interview on 07/22/2016, one of the investigators asked him to make false statements. Percy Martinez now asks Woody if he requested this interview so that he could make false statements. Woody: “Yes.” Judge Zuniga now asks Woody if he made these false statements in order to get a better deal. Woody: “No.” Percy Martinez impeaches Woody and shows that Woody stated in the Preliminary Hearing: “I thought it would get me a better deal.” Woody requested this interview after the famous incident where Beverly Woody (his mother) held up a sign in the window at the jail while visiting her son. She wanted Woody to implicate Frank Carson and Walter Wells in the killing of Korey Kauffman. Woody states that his mother did this because she thought it would get him out of jail faster.
Woody does not recall the investigators telling him that his cell phone had been detected on the Carson property. Percy Martinez impeaches Woody on this, and he admits that he was told this by the investigators. Woody does not recall that he had told the investigators: “You are wanting more from me than I can produce.” I believe he has admitted to that when cross examined by one of the other defense attorneys recently.
Percy asks Woody about his first interview that happened on 02/28/14-03/01/14. Woody does not recall being told by one of the investigators that his story has to be that he grabbed at the T-Shirts on Baljit Athwal and Daljit Atwal to try to get them to stop. He gets refreshed a couple of times on this before admitting that both CHP Officer Domby and DA Investigator Steve Jacobson told him this should be his story.
Percy Martinez now asks Woody about a transport from Tuolumne County, and if he told Steve Jacobson that he did not have anything to do with the killing of Korey Kauffman. Woody admits to saying this to Jacobson during the transport. Woody admits to telling Jacobson, during this transport, that he did not know if the Athwal brothers had anything to do with the killing of Korey Kauffman. Woody, after being refreshed, admits that Jacobson told Woody that the Athwal brothers: “knew he would be spilling his guts.” Woody admits that Jacobson told him: “You should not be prosecuted because you were lying about killing Korey Kauffman. Woody admits that Jacobson told him that Jacobson told him that the Athwal brothers would allow him to stay around as long as he keeps his mouth shut, but the minute he opens up his mouth they will snuff him out just like Korey.” He had to be refreshed before he admitted to this. We have a side bar.
After the side bar, Percy Martinez gets Woody told his lawyer on the 03/01/14 interview that he made his false statements because: “That is what they wanted to hear.” After being refreshed, Woody admits that he was told that the Athwal brothers would kill him if they found out where he was being housed. Woody admits to telling Steve Jacobson that he shouldn’t be prosecuted at all. He admits to telling Jacobson that he shouldn’t even be at the table. He admits to saying he: “was making all these fucking lies about being there when he wasn’t there at all.”
Woody is asked by Percy Martinez about an interview on 08/14/15 which was the day of his arrest. He admits that he was asked by CHP Officer Domby and Steve Jacobson about making a threat on S. Johnson Street to Korey Kauffman. Woody admits that they were asking questions about a threat he did not remember. Percy tells Woody that the investigators were asking him about going to Scott McFarlane’s house when Scott McFarlane was drunk, and then going to another place where he made another threat. Woody admits that he did not anything about that other threat. Woody admits that he told Steve Jacobson that he did not know what Korey Kauffman looked like.
Woody admits that he is a little fuzzy about the threat that happened near to where Scott McFarlane lives. This would be the infamous “Your Ass is Grass Threat.” Woody admits to saying the investigators were: “Pushing me to it” concerning implicating himself in that alleged threat. It is now 2:37PM, and we take a break until 3:05PM. As we were sitting in the hallway, I could see Kirk Bunch and Marlisa Ferreira sitting around looking like they had just been destroyed. The recent turn of events seems to be having an effect on them.
After being refreshed, Woody admits that he told the investigators that he did not know anything about the threat that the investigators were pushing him to implicate himself on. Like I said, this was the infamous: “Your Ass is Grass” incident. Woody admits that during the 08/14/15 interview with Domby and Jacobson that Jacobson told him that some neighbors had said that they saw him in a black BMW with an Indian guy. Jacobson told Woody that he had gone to S. Johnson Street with the Indian guy and made a threat against Scott McFarlane’s neighbor. Once again, the investigators are feeding Woody with the story that they want him to tell. This all seems like they are suborning perjury, but it is not happening in a court of law. Woody admits that he told the investigators: “Korey? You mean?” when they asked him about making a threat against a person who lived on S. Johnson, and the threat. Woody admits that he knew the investigators were talking about Korey Kauffman when the investigators asked him about making a threat against Scott McFarlane’s neighbor. Woody admit that when the investigators started talking about the S. Johnson Street, he asked them: “A car drove up and made a threat to him?” Woody does not recall Kirk Bunch telling him that someone made a threat against Korey Kauffman. He admits to telling the investigators that Scott McFarlane did not anything about that threat. Percy Martinez tries to show that Woody did not know anything about the threat made to Korey Kauffman and was actually only aware of driving to Michael Cooley’s house and having an argument with Cooley about the thefts on the Carson property. Woody does not recall this, and we have a side bar.
After the side bar, Percy Martinez gets Woody to admit that he had told the investigators that he did not know anything about the incident where Korey Kauffman was threatened. Woody also admits to saying that he went over to drop off Scott McFarlane. Woody admits that he said: “from the house on Lander?” and the investigators told him: “No, on S. Johnson Street.” He had to be refreshed to remember this. Woody admits that Jacobson told him they were talking about the threat on S. Johnson street, and not Lander. Woody states that he told Jacobson that he did not made the threat to Korey Kauffman. Woody admits that Jacobson told him that a neighbor said that he said the “Your Ass is Grass” threat. Jacobson told him that it was Woody and some Indian guy in the car that made the threat. Woody admits that it was Domby that told him that it was Daljit Atwal’s car that they were driving in when the threat was made. Woody admits that Jacobson had asked him if he made the threat or the Indian guy, and he told Jacobson that he never had an issue with the guy. Woody does not remember telling Jacobson: “I didn’t threaten him.” I note that I can see Marlisa Ferreira slumping in her chair at this time. She looks depressed. Woody once again admits that the investigators told him it was Daljit Atwal’s car that was driven by the house on S. Johnson Street. Percy Martinez tells Woody that Steve Jacobson asked him what exact words were said during the threat. Percy states that Jacobson told him that a neighbor said: “Your Ass is Grass” was said. Woody admits that he said, “Ass is Grass I guess.” Percy tells Woody that his next response was: “I can’t tell you the exact words to you, I don’t know.” Percy tells Woody that Jacobson said: “Give me a ball park figure and mentions something about “Your Ass is Grass” being a common phrase.” Woody responds to this by saying: “I have no idea.” Percy: “Domby asks you if you ever said Ass is Grass before?” Woody responds: “Who hasn’t?” Percy points out that Domby then said: “Could you have said that?” and Woody responded by saying: “I don’t know what to tell you.” We have a side bar at this time, and it is announced that we are done for the day. I will not be in court tomorrow because of previous commitments.
Sincerely; William Thomas Jensen (Tom)